What is wrong with Chinese and Indian Parents?

I just read an article about a Chinese kid who is driven to suicide due to the pressure from his father, relatives and teachers. You can read the article here; it shows the side of two countries China and India which are growing enormously at the expense of the kids who are the future of a country. I surely can’t comment on China, as i have never been there nor ever met a Chinese kid but I can surely speak about things in India and believe me they are not any better than the Chinese kids story.

Some kids in India are pushed even more than this Chinese kid; a kid sister of my friend goes to private tuition so that she could pass the entrance test of another private tuition which takes in less students and trains them to write and pass the entrance exam of a reputed college in India (so in simple words, she is going through two levels of tuitions to get into another tuition which she might attend 4-5 years later). This is certainly not a one-off case; there is a generation which is growing up like these or much worse.

Every other week I read in newspaper that a school or college kid killed himself/herself because they failed or got lesser marks than their peers. The most recent I read was a girl killed herself because she got 4 marks lesser than the topper of her class. It is scary and it actually makes you wonder, does the cost of sitting in a cubicle coding a website really worth a life lost.

I have actually thought a lot about the reason “Why Parents are pushing their kids to the wall”, it is certainly not job uncertainty (there are plenty of outsourced jobs here and you can see almost anyone who is slightly not retarded getting one). The only answer I got was “Most of the parents in third-world countries lack good identities” because they are in some jobs which they are not very happy or proud of and the only way for them to escape from their ‘past or present’ is to change their future which they think is in the hands of their kids and not theirs. They constantly hear of stories of kids who studied well, got a job in some company and bought his/her parents house (which if he/she is lucky enough to hold on to a job might own it in next 20 years). As I have seen most of the pushy parents are highly incompetent who actually believe that their life is over, they can’t change it because they missed opportunities when they were young or some crap like that. A real person would go achieve what he wants at any age irrespective of anything else, but pushy parents are not real people because they are betting on their kids and that is much easier to do.

The other part of the problem is housewives (I am not sexist); this is a group which actually doesn’t have an identity. If you have ever been near one, most of their sentences start with “My son/daughter is…” most of these sentences end with an achievement of their kids which are incidentally better than other housewives kids. Now the housewives who were humiliated in the conversation go home force their kids to do well in whatever they do. It is certainly not limited to studies; it can be anything jumping a fence, throwing a ball or anything else. At the end of the day, their kid has to be better than other kids. It is kind of like playing WoW where they want their avatars to be better than others and they want their avatars to level up faster so that they can fight bigger battles. So the problem is certainly not the education system, it is actually the society (housewives and people who are not happy with their jobs). So my solution would be think about the kids later, create jobs for housewives (idle minds are devil’s workshop, they are the clear example of it) and create social programs to make people like their jobs or better yet preach Entrepreneurialism. Keep the housewives busy and you would automatically see an improvement in kids who are back to being creative and independent like they always were. Please leave the kids alone, nurture them and if you can’t don’t kill the creativity they have by putting undue pressure on them.

I have always believed that to be successful intellectually, you should be driven by curiosity rather than fear.tigerthink

update: This is also being discussed on Hacker News and has some good and contrary thoughts on this particular topic. Check it out here.

  • As much as I love the initial observation and the premise, I strongly hate your solution given to the problem. You have drawn an apt parallel between the Identity crisis of parents and the drive to list out the achievements of children by the housewives. But the problem does not stop there. I have increasingly seen many upper middle class and even upper class (the really sophisticated kind) families to start driving there kinds to the walls. The problem is, in our country people do not define success as what you have achieved but what you may achieve. For example, they think a person who gets into an IIT/BITS/NIT has a much brighter future than a person who gets into a state level college. They fail to comprehend that the undergraduate degree is not the end of the journey, its just a stepping stone. Sure for those who get into a "Top Brass" college, the stepping stone acts more like and elevator, but so what? After we have our undergraduate degree, we stand on the same ground after few years in the industry if we have the talent thanks to the sharp eyes of Corporate HRs.

    Thus the conclusive "solution" that you have drawn from your awesome observation will not really work the way its supposed to be. Also its really hard to implement.
  • Ajay Kumar (A 10th std. boy)
    Awesome post Sir.... Please take the initiative of this cause...
  • GabyZ
    Very good post. They don't realize that with all the pressure they put on they're preparing their childs to be unsuccesfull and/or unhappy for all their life, a life that 2 mad parends put on paper for them.
    Most of the richest people on earth had very personal projects and many of them acqually quit school to do what made them succesfull....i quit school at 18 to make a living the way I want and by my 20s i'm sure i'll get all i want. You don't get rich/succesfull by doing the same thing the 90% of kids do: go to school, get bored and get an usual job.

    If your parents don't support you, stop asking for support and go against their will even if it's not easy...and they'll see they were wrong when you're happy.
  • I loved the apt reference to the ongoing WoW avatar madness. It struck a chord.
  • This is indeed a nice article for all parents as this is an eye-opener to what could possibly happen in our kids when they encounter too much pressure from us as parents. But situations like these are not only happening in children with Indian or Chinese parents...it can happen to any children in any part of the world regardless of their race when their parents expect too much from their children. Encouraging children to be successful or to excel is different from pressuring them and we should only do the former. Never pressure a child...
  • deb
    I agree. I came from that Hacker News thread, there few people from India seemed to disagree, and many from US told their parents also emphasize on good grades and they don't think its unjustified.

    But there is a big difference between educated US parents 'expecting' their kids to do well & un-educated/semi-mad parents in India 'demanding' their kids to be the best. I have seen it everywhere, in bigger cities, in small towns[my place], happens with my cousins these days, other children i have seen. This is madness.

    Let a kid do what he thinks is good & is within his capabilities & he will be best in that category. For example i was kind of expected, though not forced to become a software engineer, you know that boring C/C++ things ;) , but i choosed my own destiny [long story ;)]

    Taare Zameen Par has great lessons.

    Peace.
  • Good to hear that you found what you really like. :)

    Taare Zameen Par FTW
  • fear makes a person do anything, in the case above it takes a life. as you say brother its not the examination score which shows we are intelligent, its the way in which we lead our life which shows which one is better.
    keep going brother. nice work.
    Thank you.
  • True, but shouldn't learning be more about curiosity rather than fear. I totally agree with you that Real World tests everyone, not matter who they are. Thanks for the comments. :)
  • Great post. I don't think that solution would work, but its an interesting thought, especially since I can't seem to think of a solution that will work
  • Thanks, it was just a thought or a rant. Also i wanted to extend the article by writing about neighbors and extended family (aka relatives) but realized it be too long and boring. :)
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